06 June 2009 @ 01:13 pm
Lets talk Koakuma Heaven  
..err... I mean hookers... yeah hookers.

You see kids, sometimes when a man and a woman... Wait, no that's another explanation.


With each comment I read about this being a "cute" song, I come a little closer to death by a blown out lung, because it never fails to make me laugh. So lets get one thing straight: Koakuma Heaven is NOT a cute song. Its trashy song, a very, very trashy song. As we speak, that hyper techno music blaring from our speakers has our dust covered copies of Vanilla blushing in embarrassment.

Because Koakuma Heaven is about HOOKERS, whores, cheap tricks, scarlet ladies... call them what you want, but that's what this is about. Lets not be silly and start yacking on about this just being about a woman who is a little loose.

Line about a blow job + line about thick wallet, does not = cheap date. Indeed; blow job + thick wallet = VERY EXPENSIVE DATE

If ya' know what I mean. Lots of native speakers have already verified the point, so lets just let that one rest.

Yes indeed, Koakuma Heaven is sung from the perspective of a hooker and a female one too. We know its a woman because Gackt uses "wa" at the end of several words and the pronoun "Uchi". Both are only used by women and children. (and we can safely assume this isn't a child) Then of course there's the drag-tastic cover. ^^

You can read the song lyrics: HERE if you still don't believe me!

Oh and there's been a lot of confusion (amongst overseas fans) over the use of emoticons in the song. I've heard some pretty zany explanations for that, cyber sex being the favorite, but its actually very simple, in fact I bet its the emoticons that clenched it for the Japanese fans that this was a prostitute! You see, even in the red-light distracts of Shinjuku, you're going to have a hard time just walking in and finding a quicky. Oh sure, somebody will give you a naked massage and spray whip cream on you for a few thousand yen, but very few of the women (or men) that you come across in hostess clubs, salons, massage parlors, ect are going to screw you. No, sorry, no dice.

The actual prostitutes do their contact work over the phone. To get in touch with one of them you have to either know someone, who knows them and where they hang out or (as is usually the case) you have to go business card hunting. Yup' business cards.
Just wander over to your nearest shady payphone booth and grab one of the many little cards (often complete with photo) plastered on the inner walls and give them a call! Or rather a text. Most propositions are made via text message and particular emoticons are often used
as codes: the <3 heart being the favorite.

-and of course our favorite ex-host would know all about that. ^.-




EDIT*
A little side note on this, since there seems to be some confusion:
No I'm not saying that this is a hostess. I in fact said that most hostess do not sleep with customers. I mentioned Gackt being a host because as a host who worked in a rather shady establishment
(Gackt said he worked at a casino as a card dealer and then a host. Gambling and consequently casinos are illegal in Japan. So Japanese casino's are usually Yakuza controlled establishment, hidden in back alleys and infamous for their seedy reputations) he almost certainly came in contact with the prostitution culture and would be familiar with its various quirks.
 
 
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Amber Marie[info]sleepydragon_26 on June 6th, 2009 07:30 pm (UTC)
I have to say, the fact that this song is not as cutesy as it sounds makes it ten times more awesome to me.
I'm still not thrilled about the vocode, or the lipsynch, but the lyrics make up for it...kinda. Either way, it's hilarious.
Lydia[info]paraph on June 6th, 2009 07:38 pm (UTC)
Yup, its a trashy, trashy song.

And I love it. xD
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poem81[info]poem81 on June 6th, 2009 07:33 pm (UTC)
:))
thanks for the details
i knew the translation of this song, but i had no idea about the emoticons... actually i wasn't sure what to think about them
ex-host?? >.>
Lydia[info]paraph on June 6th, 2009 07:37 pm (UTC)
XD Yes a host. He worked as one for a little while, when he was younger after he quit his job as a black-jack dealer.
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Kellie: Gackt - Rockstar[info]pyroyale on June 6th, 2009 08:46 pm (UTC)
Don't those girls actually work as hostesses in a club? I must admit that the fact Gackt managed to get a group of hostesses/whatever you want to call them to happily dance along to Koakuma Heaven without them seemingly being bothered about the song lyrics just makes it even more awesome.

I think everyone became so hung up with the Ageha/fashion magazine explanation that the true meaning has become lost.
.,-=/^' 片想い '^\=-,.[info]_kataomoi_ on June 6th, 2009 10:07 pm (UTC)
"I think everyone became so hung up with the Ageha/fashion magazine explanation that the true meaning has become lost."

People have compared hosts/hostesses to geisha, which was, while the same thing to an extent, and there's this big fascination mythology about it.

Dude, prostitution is prostitution.

Either way, those girls are doing their best, YES v(^-^)v because they ARE good WOMEN…YES ♪

I wonder if they had to drink just to feel good about what they were doing on TV. o.O; Those poor, cute, foofyheaded livers.
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Dyan-chan[info]dyan25 on June 7th, 2009 05:12 am (UTC)
I thought they are models... Probably models from that Ageha magazine. Did he really say that he worked as a male escort in a casino?I've known that he worked in a casino but didn't know as an escort ^_^
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Holly[info]kokoro on June 6th, 2009 09:22 pm (UTC)
Wait - what? The song was released already? XD Has the mp3 been uploaded yet?
Dyan-chan[info]dyan25 on June 7th, 2009 05:14 am (UTC)
I made an mp3 of it and also found an mp3 on it on imeem... so I rip it from there ^_^
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Nutty will die for Dethklok[info]ntkufreak on June 6th, 2009 09:30 pm (UTC)
I found the song to be kind of sad, for the reasons you detailed, lol.

I had this subbed before and was waiting on permission to upload+a HQ video, but I think I like that translation you pulled up better...
Lydia[info]paraph on June 6th, 2009 09:58 pm (UTC)
Yes, I think out of the ones I've seen so far hers is the best translation.
Aww... and now you're going to do it all over again? XD
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mjspice: GRIN[info]mjspice on June 7th, 2009 12:48 am (UTC)
Dang I know what you mean! Whenever I hear the song I go "NO IT"S A TRASHY SONG OMG!" But I'd be damned if it isn't catchy! XDXD Even Vanilla with it's Big Bang music is VERY catchy. XDXDXD
Dyan-chan[info]dyan25 on June 7th, 2009 05:21 am (UTC)
I don't find it very surprising that Gackt seemed to make this song to mock the ageha girls. He's known for not liking girls like that... I remembered his interview... He was really annoyed/serious when he talked about he didn't like girls using slang words and destroying their language. (*sigh*) But I like his performance even if it's lipsynch since it's in Music Station. Koakuma Heaven really defeated Vanilla because I guess it's more catchy ^_^
Holly[info]kokoro on June 7th, 2009 05:47 am (UTC)
"He's known for not liking girls like that... I remembered his interview... He was really annoyed/serious when he talked about he didn't like girls using slang words and destroying their language."

I didn't understand if the song was mocking or glorifying these girls, so I'd be super interested in seeing this interview! You don't have a link by any chance, do you?

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Karadin[info]karadin on June 7th, 2009 05:42 pm (UTC)
Host and Hostess do not necessarily imply prostitute, a friend of mine who is English worked in a club in Tokyo, there are strict rules, they have bouncers in the club that keep male customers in line (don't know what the poor male hosts have, I guess they are on their own) you cannot date customers, you cannot leave the club with a customer, and even if you are given gifts, you may have to give them to the club.

What you do on your own time, I suppose it up to you! Maybe in Japan host and hostess are slang for being morally loose, I wouldn't be surprised. (It's so cute to see Kimura Takuya as a bumbling host in Mr.Brain.)

Geisha were never prostitutes, (except in films and dramas and manga) the appeal was a woman who could 'talk like a man' about politics and culture, not just the ability to look good in kimono and dance.
Lydia[info]paraph on June 7th, 2009 06:08 pm (UTC)
Its true that some clubs do have strict rules on these things, but there have been many hosts and hostesses that have been interviewed and have admitted to having slept with clients. One should also keep in mind that not all clubs are as up-scale as the one you mentioned and don't have the same strict rule system.

ALSO I never said that a host/hostess and a prostitute were the same thing. In fact, I said right in the post that if you go into a club/salon, ect, you're not going to probably find someone who's going to have sex with you.

The only place I even brought up the word "host" was in mentioning that Gackt used to be one.
kamiko1981[info]kamiko1981 on June 8th, 2009 06:06 am (UTC)
There is a documentary called "The Great Happiness Space" about this subject and it's good.
And also the jdramas Jotei (women) and GiraGira (men) in the business.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0493420/
http://wiki.d-addicts.com/Jotei
http://wiki.d-addicts.com/Giragira

If you feel like it add this info to the main post.
The dramas can be found on D-Addicts.
kamiko1981[info]kamiko1981 on June 8th, 2009 06:08 am (UTC)
And for the Great Happiness Space use the tracker IsoHunt.
gaze13[info]gaze13 on June 8th, 2009 10:01 am (UTC)
lol i knew it xD
ex host? gackt was a host ._.??
Lydia[info]paraph on June 9th, 2009 10:33 pm (UTC)
*laughs*

Yes, Gackt was a host in his younger years.
If you scroll up a ways in the comments, you'll find link to where he mentions it in his bio.
Amallama: blank moonchild sho -__easterngirl[info]amakarie on June 8th, 2009 03:24 pm (UTC)
Thanks for breaking this down for us; it certainly sheds some light on the song. :)
runninwild04: Gackt singing my life...[info]runninwild04 on June 9th, 2009 11:09 am (UTC)
i stumbled upon your lj and read your explanations and i wanted to thank you! i had a hard time not laughing (while still enjoying) the song and it's been brought to a whole new level of understanding now~ he never ceases to amuse and make me squee. XDDD i still can't not laugh at that wink and facial expression at the end *points to picture* anyway, thank you again!
Bad Christian: Kanata - Warau[info]lauraorganasolo on June 9th, 2009 08:26 pm (UTC)
Trashy -- and cutesy. I'm sorry, I can't help it, I think it's cutesy.

I thought it was more about trashy compensated dating kogal/ageha types rather than hostesses or poor, pathetic streetwalkers.

I also thought hosts and hostesses tended not to screw their clients and that it was primarily an above-the-board thing.

Has there ever been any confirmation of Gackt having worked as a host BTW?

Thanks a lot for this write-up, BTW.
Lydia[info]paraph on June 9th, 2009 10:30 pm (UTC)
also thought hosts and hostesses tended not to screw their clients and that it was primarily an above-the-board thing.

They don't normally. I never actually said that this was about a hostess. I only mentioned Gackt being a host and then only because he would be familiar with that part of the culture. (not that he was sleeping around mind you) But you can't be in one line of work without running into the other at some point or another.

I actually wrote a whole (locked) post explain hostesses/hosts. If you like, I can mail you a copy.
Karis: catboy[info]burnbook31 on June 10th, 2009 11:10 am (UTC)
Hey, I got linked here from some post at [info]dears.

I thank you for explaining it, thoroughly, in my opinion. I've been trying to find some explanation about the song. But I guess this one kinda nailed it. :)

When I first heard the song I thought it was just a "goody, goody" type song. And when some translation came up, I'm really surprised. It actually makes me laugh bitterly, i dunno why. They say it's a mocking song. But when i've watch the Music station video, if it's a mocking song, what's with the girl's dancing? I kinda don't get that point. >_>

Now, I think I understood it, a little better. I'm a bad new fan. XD
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